Comments on: Is it better to have surfed and lost………..? http://atss.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/is-it-better-to-have-surfed-and-lost/ Clippings from the fringes of educational ICT Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:26:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Highland and Websense. « Jim Henderson’s Blog http://atss.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/is-it-better-to-have-surfed-and-lost/#comment-173 Highland and Websense. « Jim Henderson’s Blog Sun, 04 May 2008 11:38:20 +0000 http://atss.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-173 [...] and Websense. Posted on May 4, 2008 by jimhenderson Alan blogged about his frustrations of trying to access some blogging sites but had them restricted by [...] [...] and Websense. Posted on May 4, 2008 by jimhenderson Alan blogged about his frustrations of trying to access some blogging sites but had them restricted by [...]

]]> By: davidrgilmour http://atss.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/is-it-better-to-have-surfed-and-lost/#comment-171 davidrgilmour Fri, 02 May 2008 07:48:55 +0000 http://atss.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-171 Oh dear. Sense doesn't come into it, does it? I did a paper on this for another Scottish LEA, happy to send a copy. It was a summary of our position in East Lothian. The key distinction we make is between Web2.0 sites that are important to teaching and learning, such as blogs, wikis and photo-sharing sites, and those that are more used for the children's social lives, such as Bebo. They were lumping them all together at the time and blocking the lot. I wouldn't claim we're perfect, or that this is an ideal situation in that sometimes teachers may want to use Bebo as a learning tool, say for example in relation to internet safety. But it might be a sensible first target to aim for? Good luck! David http://edubuzz.org/blogs/david Oh dear. Sense doesn’t come into it, does it?

I did a paper on this for another Scottish LEA, happy to send a copy. It was a summary of our position in East Lothian. The key distinction we make is between Web2.0 sites that are important to teaching and learning, such as blogs, wikis and photo-sharing sites, and those that are more used for the children’s social lives, such as Bebo. They were lumping them all together at the time and blocking the lot.

I wouldn’t claim we’re perfect, or that this is an ideal situation in that sometimes teachers may want to use Bebo as a learning tool, say for example in relation to internet safety. But it might be a sensible first target to aim for?

Good luck!

David
http://edubuzz.org/blogs/david

]]> By: whereisab » Blog Archive » Websense says no… http://atss.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/is-it-better-to-have-surfed-and-lost/#comment-170 whereisab » Blog Archive » Websense says no… Fri, 02 May 2008 05:59:38 +0000 http://atss.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-170 [...] (and a bit alarmed) to read the other day that Highland Council’s Education Department is blocking blogs and other such web 2.0 sites [...] [...] (and a bit alarmed) to read the other day that Highland Council’s Education Department is blocking blogs and other such web 2.0 sites [...]

]]> By: Alan Stewart http://atss.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/is-it-better-to-have-surfed-and-lost/#comment-169 Alan Stewart Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:15:17 +0000 http://atss.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-169 Yes, Andrew there is a facility - we call or email and wait for someone to make a decision. Sometimes this can happen quickly - sometimes it takes a little longer. I'm going to need to look into this. I'll be able to sort out the problem for my own establishment by installing a server that will allow me to set the filtering but our primary schools don't have this luxury. In the meantime I will request a 'lift' on your and Ewan's blog pages. Yes, Andrew there is a facility - we call or email and wait for someone to make a decision. Sometimes this can happen quickly - sometimes it takes a little longer.

I’m going to need to look into this. I’ll be able to sort out the problem for my own establishment by installing a server that will allow me to set the filtering but our primary schools don’t have this luxury.

In the meantime I will request a ‘lift’ on your and Ewan’s blog pages.

]]> By: muckprimary http://atss.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/is-it-better-to-have-surfed-and-lost/#comment-168 muckprimary Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:11:54 +0000 http://atss.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-168 Alan, this has long been an issue and is, frankly, laughable (only it's not funny!) As you rightly say, how can we expect to push the boundaries and lead pupils through the wealth of learning opportunities afforded by the web if much of it is off limits? Not good. How about an e-petition? (or would that be blocked too?) Alan, this has long been an issue and is, frankly, laughable (only it’s not funny!)

As you rightly say, how can we expect to push the boundaries and lead pupils through the wealth of learning opportunities afforded by the web if much of it is off limits?

Not good. How about an e-petition? (or would that be blocked too?)

]]> By: whereisab http://atss.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/is-it-better-to-have-surfed-and-lost/#comment-167 whereisab Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:37:56 +0000 http://atss.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-167 Gutted to hear this Alan - perhaps we ought to start a campaign against filtering? Presumably, there is the facility to request that sites get un-blocked? Gutted to hear this Alan - perhaps we ought to start a campaign against filtering? Presumably, there is the facility to request that sites get un-blocked?

]]> By: Alan Stewart http://atss.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/is-it-better-to-have-surfed-and-lost/#comment-166 Alan Stewart Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:37:15 +0000 http://atss.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-166 Happy to report that you're considered wholesome enough for general consumption - at least for now, Doug! Keep the candle burning to light our way out of the darkness! Happy to report that you’re considered wholesome enough for general consumption - at least for now, Doug!

Keep the candle burning to light our way out of the darkness!

]]> By: dougmuse http://atss.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/is-it-better-to-have-surfed-and-lost/#comment-165 dougmuse Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:01:40 +0000 http://atss.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-165 I think that you are quite right to be 'upset' about this. It is, as you indicate, the tail and the dog problem. It sort of redefines what a 'service' is doesn't it? I can remember a caretaker in a school having a similar attitude towards children and the fact that they walked on his floor ! I do hope you get it sorted .... just out of curiosity... am I blocked as well? I think that you are quite right to be ‘upset’ about this. It is, as you indicate, the tail and the dog problem. It sort of redefines what a ’service’ is doesn’t it?

I can remember a caretaker in a school having a similar attitude towards children and the fact that they walked on his floor !

I do hope you get it sorted …. just out of curiosity… am I blocked as well?

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